Fascinating day and interview on SETI radio.  My host, Molly Bentley heard my interview on Michael Krasny and asked me to join her on her radio program at SETI.  SETI  stands for the Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence.  The mission of the Institute is "to explore, understand and explain the origin, nature and prevalence of life in the universe."    We had a wide-ranging and quite fascinating conversation about whale communication and intelligence as well as many of the other issues raised in the book.  We discussed the fact that understanding one of the other great (yet quite different) intelligences on our own planet might help us to understand any extra-terrestrial intelligence we might discover.  We also looked at the differences and similarities of our different consciousnesses and how they have evolved for our different environments.  One of my advisors, Dr. Brenda McCowan of UC-Davis, worked with SETI on her whale research, trying to explore how what we know about whale communication might inform our understanding of alien intelligence.  Molly was an impassioned interviewer, and we also discussed not only the dangers of anthropomorphism, which I've tried to avoid, but also the danger of human exceptionalism, and our artificial and self-created separation from the rest of the intelligence on our planet.  We also discussed the pain that comes from knowing the truth and the perhaps even greater pain of denial.